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Hodgson's joke and who told the papers?


Well I'm sure all of you have heard about Roy Hodgson's apparently racist joke, which in my opinion has been completely taken out of proportion, and made a much bigger deal than it should've been. It obviously wasn't meant in a racist way. If you haven't seen it:

“NASA decided they’d finally send a man up in a capsule after sending only monkeys in the earlier missions,” the joke goes.
“They fire the man and the monkey into space.
“The intercom crackles, ‘Monkey, fire the retros.’
“A little later, ‘Monkey, check the solid fuel supply.’
“Later still, “Monkey, check the life support systems for the man.’
“The astronaut takes umbrage and radioes NASA, ‘When do I get to do something?’
“NASA replies, ‘In 15 minutes – feed the monkey.’”
As in pass to Townsend. Ridiculous because he would have said the same to Gerrard, Wilshere, anyone, not just a black player. 

But here's another thought - which player decided to tell the press about this? One member of the England squad did. And judging by their twitter reactions, we can rule out Townsend and Rooney. I'm guessing they're black. But whoever they are, surely when the player is eventually found out, their relationship with Hodgson will be damaged and possibly their England chances damaged too? If you have an issue with something go to the FA or Kick it Out, do not go to The Sun newspaper. This player is so stupid to go to the press. Who do you think grassed up Roy and what is your opinion on this subject? 


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Doozers20 · Man Utd fan   In reply

@Posford I'm pretty sure some sort of scandal came out before both world cups.

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Posford · Norwich City fan   In reply

@Doozers20 They never seemed to talk smack about England during the 2006 and 2010 World Cups. It was like we were expected to win the whole thing each time. I suppose I liked the way before Euro 2012 started no one was optimistic so it was more like we surprised ourselves than that we'd failed again

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Doozers20 · Man Utd fan   In reply

@Posford The media wouldn't have a clue if the player hadn't said anything to them... Also, what paper have you been reading? England players are always bad mouthed by the media before any major tournament, not just this one.

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Posford · Norwich City fan

Utterly stupid story, no need for all this fuss and Townsend has even said that he took it as a compliment. Who cares what Roy said to the players, it f*cking worked and he would've said the same if that player was Gerrard, Rooney, Lampard etc. Just the media fishing around for controversy and to try and drag England's name through the gutter again. I've noticed the media now slate England BEFORE a major tournament rather than after like they used to

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Italian_celt67 · Celtic fan

He should know better than to make a stupid joke

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TaffWells · Cardiff City fan   In reply

@paulison - ohhh no - however, managed to flee to a safe haven. I know a guy who works for NASA and he to got me a ticket for the 4.45 flight yesterday from Cape Kennedy :-)

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mrsentah · Liverpool fan

I think Gary Neville told... He still thought he was on MNF and wanted to be impartial. Also his face at the end of the game didn't look too impressed?

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ossie

Genius by Roy. The story would have distracted the players minds from the pressure of the game. Also by taking time to tell it he would have shown that HE is relaxed and calm. That in turn would have made the players more confident.

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Villa-Rich · Aston Villa fan   In reply

@releasethekraken We're living in an ultra sensitive society. Only seems to work one way thou racism against English White people seems to be acceptable.

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Villa-Rich · Aston Villa fan   In reply

@releasethekraken I'm not worried about his poor jokes tbh. I don't like him as England manager but he got us to the World Cup which was his minimum requirement. He knows his football obviously from all the jobs he's had so a poor joke doesn't worry me. All dressing rooms have jokes and banter he's just obviously sh!t at it lol.

Yeah your comments are right. Asian and black people don't really get that offended at half the stuff if anything there embarrassed by some of it. Like you say it's just Middle Aged white guys and girls who make it into something bigger than what it needs to be. I call them do gooders.

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releasethekraken · Liverpool fan

Also, i think the more pressing matter here is the quality of roy hodgson's team talks... does he really think a stand-up routine is going to motivate his players? i would question his thinking using an analogy like this to describe "pass the ball to andros" - i mean, you have to think about your target audience - i've read it a few times and struggle to see how you get 'pass it to andros' out of it, and footballers are hardly known for being particularly bright are they? i'm half surprised rooney didn't misinterpret the team talk and go straight to NASA after half time to send a monkey into space....

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releasethekraken · Liverpool fan

Hahah. of course it's racist, everything's racist now. this is 100% the worst thing about football and to be honest, society as a whole right now. the journos love a 'racism' scandal. annoys me so much i can't even begin to describe it. and i see the press have again jumped at the chance to ruin the good news of england getting to the world cup with another pointless non-story, what a surprise... i genuinely think people who try to make everything racist are worse than actual racists themselves - i'm not talking the john terry's or the suarez's who made one poorly judged remark - i'm talking the mongs who genuinely think for some reason black people are inferior. i feel more pity for their stupidity and ignorance than genuine hatred. it's the white people of the PC police who inexplicably get all upset and on their high horse whenever one of these comments are made who need to be hunted down shot more hurriedly than the actual racists IMO. i bet black people don't even get offended by half of this sh*t, it must be really weird when all these middle-class white men are speaking up for them. honestly, it does my head in. and the whole nation has been talking about it this week as well, even though they know it's total b0ll0cks.

also, it's worth noting that the people who attributed this 'joke' to being racist in the first place are actually far more racist than the person who told the joke. the word 'monkey' was used in a joke-turned-analogy and they were the ones who instantly thought "oh my goodness he's calling a black person a monkey!!! someone call the police, quick!" while everyone else, including andros townsend (who apparently must for some reason be really hurt by all this) just got on with their lives.

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jimbo1984 · Man Utd fan

@Doozers20 yeah that's true

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Doozers20 · Man Utd fan   In reply

@jimbo1984 it could also be a stupid tongue in cheek comment that the press, of course, have taken out of proportion... A lot of footballers aren't the brightest bunch.

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jimbo1984 · Man Utd fan

Also.. Why would a player leak the story to the press.. Surely even today's mollycoddled footballers would go either to their agent or their club manager before anything.. Not to the sun... Just can't see any player, qualifying for the World Cup buy winning the group and then talking to the press about something this trivial

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Doozers20 · Man Utd fan   In reply

@walshi1987 also what does smalling paying right back have to do with anything?

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Doozers20 · Man Utd fan   In reply

@jimbo1984 that's what I was thinking as I typed it

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jimbo1984 · Man Utd fan

If it was a player it was probably one of the Chelsea lot.. You know what they are like.. Lampard probably has a cob on because Roy benched him..

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jimbo1984 · Man Utd fan

@Doozers20 Really?? If that is the case then that is shocking.. Still wouldn't surprise me if the press have made that up to make the story more interesting.. They aren't exactly known for their honesty

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Doozers20 · Man Utd fan   In reply

@walshi1987 think people are a bit harsh on welbeck

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