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Liverpool fluff the title


Liverpool have been found wanting when the title race has hit squeaky bum time. Couldn’t topple Mourinho’s park the bus tactic’s. Man City now have the title race in there hands if they win there remaining 3 games with a better goal difference. I belive the title is Man Cities for the taking. Liverpool will never have as good a chance to win the title again because they will have a lot more games to contend with next season with there small squad.

I Hope Villa can beat Hull next week then our trip to Man City won't matter and we can gift the points to Man City to take the title away from Liverpool. 

 Thank you Chelsea for doing everyone a favour. Gerrard's slip for the Ba goal was priceless HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


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Villa-Rich · Aston Villa fan   In reply

@Swanseajack101 Ah hate is to strong a word. A lot of it is banter. I like @Paulison and @releasethekraken

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Swanseajack101 · Swansea City fan

Wow @Villa-Rich must really hate Liverpool fans!

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Dent_Ford · Man Utd fan

@releasethekraken again I disagree. You say Chesea didn't play well, and "in fact they didn't even attempt to play." By that I take it you mean that since they weren't throwing people forward they weren't playing well. I disagree. They played very well, just defensively, and they did finish the couple of chances Liverpool mistakes gave them. Again, just b/c you approach the game defensively does not mean you're playing poorly or not even trying to play the game. I understand a lot of people find that approach boring, but it is still a legit way to play the game IMHO. As to Liverpool, I also disagree that they played so badly as it was that they had no second option for breaking down Chelsea's packed in defense other than to keep trying to pass thru the center. I thought they had a few good runs from the wings that showed promise, but then they would go right back to the tactics that weren't working. IMHO Liverpool didn't as much get beat by Chelsea as BR got out managed by the Special One...

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Doozers20 · Man Utd fan   In reply

@Jonevarro United fans blamed decisions against Chelsea, not Sunderland... And I didn't agree with them either.

You waffle about as much rubbish as your manager about a transitional season, there is a settled back 4 there that are used to each other, apparently the best set of attacking midfielders in the Premier League, good centre midfielders who have been there for years, alongside a player that you said you would put in team of the season after playing 15 games, and a fantastic, strong young striker who can be a handful for anyone and nicks a good amount of goals, oh wait he's at Everton. Winning nothing is not success for Chelsea in my eyes. United are also not in transition, this season was down to p*** poor management on their side.

Again with the decisions, Chelsea have had some against them, what you seem to forget is the ones that have actually gone for them, you mentioned 2 in another thread, I can counter that with 2 just off my head, and I don't even watch that much of Chelsea

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Doozers20 · Man Utd fan   In reply

@Jonevarro Lampard was playing due to an injury and suspension to who? Mikel was playing due to injury and suspension to who? Same with Azpilicueta...

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Jonevarro · Chelsea fan

@releasethekraken City game we played just like Madrid, perfect counter attacking football. We were by far the better team. We stockpile youth. Considering pundits/commentators at the time said it was likely a pen...

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releasethekraken · Liverpool fan   In reply

@Jonevarro the flanagan handball would've been a very harsh one to give. you're majorly clutching at straws saying it should have been a penalty.

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releasethekraken · Liverpool fan   In reply

@Jonevarro mourinho would've played those tactics anyway, it's just the way he is. mourinho's sides play that way when they go away to better teams. and no the champions league is not a valid excuse. chelsea have more than a big enough squad to deal with extra games, more than any other club on the planet in fact due to their stockpiling of players. pathetic excuse.

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Jonevarro · Chelsea fan

@Doozers20 injuries and suspensions mean that. As I said, excluding injuries/suspensions, only 3 of our first XI played. That's a B team. United fans blamed decisions when we won the double, it happens when you have decisions go against you, which we've had too many of this season. Even the handball in the first half should have been a penalty so really we could have scored more than 2. As I've said which you two clearly don't seem to grasp, we're in a transitional season, we should be more so than United are. You won the league last season. The only team with a completed squad is City's. We're still in the process of replacing ageing players and replacing players who have left. Our squad is good yes, but it's not good enough to win both UCL and the league. In the previous 2 seasons we finished 25 and 14 points behind 1st. We're currently 2 points off 1st and in a UCL semi final. Regardless if we don't win silverware this season has been successful.

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Jonevarro · Chelsea fan

@releasethekraken UCL is a perfectly valid excuse. 15 games is a huge difference. No Mourinho used those tactics because we had loads of players missed.

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Doozers20 · Man Utd fan   In reply

@Jonevarro It's funny how 4 of your b team played in your teams most important match of the season...

UCL and poor refereeing decisions against bottom table clubs are poor excuses for a team like Chelsea not to be top

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releasethekraken · Liverpool fan   In reply

@Jonevarro hahahah lfc are above you cause of UCL? what an excuse. don't be a mong mate, the number of games each team has to play is reflected by the sizes of the squads. just look at liverpool's bench. chelsea could get a better bench just from the players they have on loan at vitesse FFS.... so don't use that excuse.

and clearly liverpool are the superior team, why else would mourinho use those tactics - those tactics are the ultimate concession that your opponents are vastly superior. in fact LFC should take it as a compliment that a chelsea team built from hundreds of millions played like that.

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releasethekraken · Liverpool fan   In reply

@Dent_Ford apologies. but many have used the word genius. on the day liverpool didn't play well and didn't deserve to win. but neither did chelsea, in fact they didn't even attempt to play. 0-0 was the fair result. i have no problem with teams playing like that, i just disagree with everyone saying that mourinho is a genius for what are essentially glorified sam allardyce tactics. mourinho didn't tactically engineer gerrard miscontrolling the ball and then slipping.....

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Jonevarro · Chelsea fan

@MB_Ktubes you have to put it into context though. It wasn't "just Liverpool", it was a team who hadn't lost in 2014, who had won their previous 11 games. Liverpool are also the leagues highest scorers and it was at Anfield. All of those factors including a significantly weaker (B) team, it leads to the result being a very good achievement.

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MB_Ktubes · Liverpool fan   In reply

@Jonevarro but having the ability to replace them without difficulty does not make playing a B team to defeat Liverpool a great achievement. The players who played have played a significant proportion of the season. The point people are making that Liverpool were defeating by a team that wasn't capable of getting a result but IMO they evidently were. It was nowhere near the strongest line-up Chelsea could have fielded but it was still very strong so I don't think 'B' team is a term that should be used.

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Jonevarro · Chelsea fan

@MB_Ktubes they were clearly capable as they did it. Doesn't mean it's any less of a B team. Bayern could play a B team that is strong, the fact it's strong is irrelevant it's the fact it's a B team. Same goes for Chelsea. Both are inferior to the A team. Chelsea's team was inferior. Hazard, Willian, Cahill and Terry have been some of our best players this season, as has Cech.

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MB_Ktubes · Liverpool fan   In reply

@Jonevarro The squads are completely different. Chelsea have invested and have the depth to replace the players who start more often without significant difficult. They aren't inferior. We are admittedly as smaller club in terms of expenditure and budget which means that if that was the case that we didn't have Suarez, Sturridge etc. then the squad would be inferior. Obviously some players are more talented than others but the majority of the players who started are completely capable of playing and producing results as they did.

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Jonevarro · Chelsea fan

@MB_Ktubes To say it is a B team is precisely true. The players are inferior. Not hugely inferior but inferior regardless. It's the equivalent of you not having Henderson, Suarez, Sturridge, Sterling, Coutinho, Skrtel, Mignolet, etc.

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MB_Ktubes · Liverpool fan   In reply

@Jonevarro Yes but a 'B' team refers to the players being inferior to others when that isn't the case. The only consistent positions within the squad has been the back 4 and Nemenja Matic. Lampard, Luiz and Ramires have all had significant game time next to Matic who hasn't missed much gametime since signing. Likewise when attacking. Oscar, Willian, Hazard, Salah and Schurrle have all had significant game time this season. I admit there were some notable absentees but to say that this team is a 'B' team simply isn't true.

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Jonevarro · Chelsea fan

@MB_Ktubes B team refers to 2nd second XI it makes no reference to previous experience so that comment is completely irrelevant. Of the players that started, only 3 of them are in our 1st choice XI of which 2 in their natural positions. That is undoubtedly a B team. No Cech, Terry, Cahill, Ramires, Oscar, Willian, Hazard and Eto'o. Anyone who denies it's a B team is lying.

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