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Cardiff City Forum   ·   18 comments

Novel suggestion for managers


It's almost universally acknowledged that the crowd is the 12th man able to affect the course of a game if their input is strong enough. I felt for a while a good manager could enhance the crowd effect by addressing the crowd before a game via the public address system. This could be a valuable asset in the right hands - but obviously if done badly could be a disaster.

In effect what I'm suggesting is that the manager makes the crowd feel  more at one with the team (who could be on the pitch at the same time) and the team at one with the crowd.

What do you think? Which managers do you think could pull it off and which ones would make a mess of it?


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releasethekraken · Liverpool fan

Rodgers would be like "okay i want you all to show your support for this special club. i have written the names of 3 fans who will let us down this season, make sure you're not one of them"

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TaffWells · Cardiff City fan   In reply

@Posford - you keep on about this "fair play" idea. Not sure which planet you are on. Is it "fair play" that one team can easily afford to pay upwards of £50 million for one player and it not even affect their bank blalance noticeably whereas another team in exactly the same league will struggle to buy even one player for £10 million? Is it fair play that the top teams can afford to give their players eg £120,000 per week and often just have them on the bench while in other teams their top players earn a maximum of £30,000 per week? Life is never a level playing field and never has been! If you want to play the gentleman then the logic is you would never be so rude as to offend your visiting guests by scoring a goal nor by horror of horrors by beating them. If you can accept an essential component of sport is to beat the opposition then I see nothing at all wrong in putting additional pressure on your opponents by geeing on the crowd.

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Posford · Norwich City fan   In reply

@Doozers20 true, when you think about the likes of Vincent Tan and the people who own City and Fulham now. City got Jason Manford to sing blue moon before the game on sunday so that clearly worked for them

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Doozers20 · Man Utd fan   In reply

@Posford the fans wouldn't understand half the owners.

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Posford · Norwich City fan   In reply

@Doozers20 Exactly, it's the announcer's job to do that, maybe the owners could say something seeing as they are supposed to be the most passionate about the club. Do a Delia, "let's be avin' you!" ;)

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Doozers20 · Man Utd fan   In reply

@Posford I agree that this has no place in the game, I want the manager to spend the last few minutes before a game geeing up the players, not the fans, they should come pumped themself in my opinion, maybe that could fall to the stadium announcer instead.

I disagree that home advantage is bad though.

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Posford · Norwich City fan   In reply

@Doozers20 this whole manager thing is a bit much for me, it's out of their remit. Managers like Mourinho could use this extra attention to create some real animosity towards the opposition and it works both ways too. It may makes both sets of fans more competitive and violent which is something the British game doesn't need. In most cases fans do bring their own energy to the games and if they don't then frankly I think that's a bit sad. I'd say it works well as it is

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Doozers20 · Man Utd fan   In reply

@Posford but they have to travel one game a season anyway if they want to go to away games, so not really much difference, there wouldn't be a need for two games vs each team either.

Each team get's one chance to have a sort of home advantage against each of the other teams, I really don't see a problem with having the fans involved in the game to give their team a better chance, if they don't have that, they basically bring nothing. I don't understand what you mean by too much though?

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Posford · Norwich City fan   In reply

@Doozers20 if the games were played at neutral venues then the fans would always be having to travel somewhere that was appropriate distance for both teams which would be logistically difficult. Home advantage is tough enough for away teams as it is but I think there could come a point when there's too much.

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Doozers20 · Man Utd fan   In reply

@Posford well to be 'fair' games could be played in neutral locations across the country, the whole point for me is that one team get's a home advantage one game, the other in the next game. The fans drive much of the smaller teams on to points against the bigger teams, it's not an evil at all, it's a part of the game.

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Posford · Norwich City fan   In reply

@TaffWells but that's not fair play. The away team don't have the same privileges. Home advantage is a necessary evil in sport, as I've mentioned, a match has to be played somewhere and home advantage is a virtue of that. Promoting it could create extra animosity against the away team or be disrespectful

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Posford · Norwich City fan   In reply

@Doozers20 ...well matches have to be played somewhere and teams do need some kind of base 'home'

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Doozers20 · Man Utd fan   In reply

@Posford not sure on the idea but I would ask what the point in home games were if not for home advantage

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TaffWells · Cardiff City fan   In reply

@Posford - yes of course! Getting an addvantage is the whole point of doing it - maximise your assets!

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Posford · Norwich City fan

Lambert would be good at this kind of thing as would Mackay, Pulis (Palace do need some umph right now) and Allardyce but knowing Hughton he would probably balls it up. Pochettino should do it all in Spanish and see how the Saints faithful react

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Posford · Norwich City fan

Doesn't this give the home team more of an advantage? No matter how noisy the away fans are, you can almost guarantee the home team will be louder. Well, unless the home team is United or Everton...

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TheWelshDragon · Cardiff City fan

It's a good idea, Moyes definitely couldn't pull it off. Mourinho could.

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AFC_Harry34 · Arsenal fan

Good idea, would be nice to hear

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