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Gillingham Forum   ·   17 comments

Racist club


A tribunal has found Gillingham guilty of treating ex-striker Mark McCammon and other black players differently. Full report here : http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11737/7950539/ . What is your opinion on this? Is there a real issue of racism in England?

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IanRush · Liverpool fan

I missed this in the news a while back (not sure how that happened), wow!

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AFC_Harry34 · Arsenal fan

There not a racist club anymore.

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liam · Arsenal fan

In some ways I was shocked, but in another way I wasnt if I'm honest! Sometimes I think do the authorities go harder on racial cases because clubs/ people on a less higher profile are easier to convict then say a bigger club / person? I'm a bit undecided on this one if I am totally honest

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BlueChampion · Chelsea fan

@ateeq Totally agree. We haven't even scratched surface. There's so much focus on racial abuse while the racial discrimination goes on and is harder to prove. That comes from the society. Football doesn't work in isolation. The more mature and broad minded the society is, all the modules of it - sports, politics, arts etc - benefit from it. So, I think it's not just a football problem. It happens to be high pressure contact sport and it reflects the ideas of the society to some extent.

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ateeq · Newcastle United fan

Without sounding like a lecture - direct racism - remarks, comments and chants va indirect racism - which I think is where we are at now on the whole. Indirect racism is harder to tackle because it's covered up and conveyed in a different way thus 1 million times harder to prove. Asian footballers or the lack there of is massive- every kid whether white,black or brown kicks a ball around and over the years I have personally seen some exceptionally talented Asian
Layers. Maybe with The changes to kids playing on 11 a side to 7 a side will push through a lot of Asian players who tend to be smaller and have a slighter physique than their counter parts.
Being Asian myself, racism is something I have alway been wary of and encountered direct and indirect over the years- its not nice at all but being born in this country I feel I have just as much right as any one else.... I do however see racism as an ongoing theme in this country and something that requires real hard education at schools to try and get kids and people to understand it better- racism free uk? Not in a long while

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@ateeq good point about the Asians there is still racial issues about that. But the 4 big cases now aren't just moronic fans. 3 are top players and one is an actual club. that can't be marked up to the working class nature of football

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ateeq · Newcastle United fan

Football is a common persons sport and thus is racism is more common than in other sports such as rugby and cricket where your players and followers and far more educated. Back 30 years ago racism was rife in football- 30 years on we have a huge number of black players ( where the f*** are the Asian players incidentally ?????) but society will highlight that black or white or mixed race - we have moved on. It's bound to still be in society but it is eroding away as multi cultural Britain comes to the fore. Across eastern Europe ipracism is a major problem and will continue to be so for many decades/ centuries as ethnic minorities will not setlle in those countries

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Italian_celt67 · Celtic fan

The racism in English football went away for a while I can see it coming back

  ·     ·     ·   6 years

removed_user

@Baldersmith no. no nobody bring racial abuse on themselves. We got told the year Neil Lennon got sent bombs, death threats and physically attacked on live TV that it was all his fault, it is bullsh*t. your opinion doesn't open you up to racist abuse. That is exactly the issue with racism and why it won't get solved as people go about saying "it all their own fault"

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Baldersmith · Liverpool fan

@TheDannyGordon Collymore brings it on himself. He is an attention seeking argumentative twot. He blocked me for abusing him. (Non racially I may add)

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removed_user

@Baldersmith its a growing minority. the amount of racist abuse Stan Collymore got for saying Liverpool dealt with the Suarez issue wrong is shocking and can't be seen as a minority

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adambcfc · Birmingham City fan

Suarez to sign for Gillingham?

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Baldersmith · Liverpool fan

@TheDannyGordon Minority of morons. Most fans and players have brains a few who tweet are ugly 12 year olds with no life trying to get a reaction. Like the idiot who had a pop at Muamba. Giving it large on twitter, get sentenced to prison and cries like a baby. Bunch of morons.

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removed_user

@Baldersmith but look at those 3 players. 2 of them were captain of England at one point. the other is a massive name who plays for a top team in the league. Now there is a club that has been proven to have been racist. what is to say other clubs aren't doing the same? and you seen the documentary by Clarke Carlise he interviewed players and they said they get racist abuse. Micah Richards had to leave twitter due to racial abuse.

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Baldersmith · Liverpool fan

Say we take Suarez, Terry and Ferdinand. Then we say that each club has 25 players (Probably much more in most cases when taking into account reserves, under 18's etc). Then we take the 92 professional clubs in England. 25 X 92 gives us a total of 2300 players. 3 players charged because of racial abuse out of a minimum of 2300 really is minuscule. It's clearly wrong, but I still think we blow it out of proportion.

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removed_user

But there isn't just one. there is Suarez, Terry, Rio now this. there is a real issue here and what you have just said is why nothing is being done about it

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Baldersmith · Liverpool fan

The whole racism issue is blown out of proportion all the time in my opinion. When you think about the amount of proffesional footballers, coachs, managers, scouts, physios etc in the game compared to the amount of race issues it is minuscule. Obviously one racist debate is too much, but I do think people blow it up massively.

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